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  Encouraged to do something = forced/intimidated

  by neat blue dog in

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  in a recent article there was this experience from el salvador:.

  "during the meeting, brother baltasar perla, sr., who later became a member of the branch committee, asked all the elders present to give him their government-issued identity cards.

  he then informed the elders that their names and addresses would be included in a written request to the government for legal recognition... then explained to us that since our names and addresses would be in that document, if the authorities ever wanted to ban our work, we would be the first ones they would come after and the first ones to be thrown in jail.

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  A few years ago, the Borg required each congregation's elders to review their "excess funds" and consider "whether" these funds could be "donated" to the world-wide work.

  Yeah, right. In actuality, they were being coerced into handing over those funds and to keep doing so if the congregation's balance ever got above about two months expenses. If any congregation balked, the elders were simply replaced with ones who would be more compliant cooperative. Sheesh! Talk about your strong-arm tactics. The Mafia could take lessons.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses: remembering the weird and wacky!

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  do you remember some of the weird and wacky stuff emanating from the watchtower society?

  let's make a list from memory that we can use to inject a little humor into our discussions with jehovah's witnesses.

  - venus may be an enormous jurassic park.. - germs don't cause disease.. - no beards allowed.

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  Hey, punkofnice! I don't know how active truthbookblues is nowadays, but his videos are still available on YouTube. Here's the link to the video you were talking about. Enjoy!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Sdh239AII
  
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  Rutherford and dinosaurs

  by jhine in

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  2. beliefs

  sorry if this has been discussed before but on quora someone asked if rutherford had said that dinosaurs had been taken to venus .

  i assume that the questioner had heard it somewhere and wanted to check it out.

  i've never come across this before is it true ?

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  "...some astronomers have advanced the idea that animals like the dinosaurs that once roamed this planet are now finding Venus a happy place in which to live.”

  As usual, the WT leadership was very vague when "citing" a supposed expert to bolster their ridiculous claims. I will personally give $100 to the first person who can prove that even one peer-respected astronomer ever advanced the ludicrous idea that there are living dinosaurs on Venus.

  What a load of BS!
  
  
  
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  Rutherford and dinosaurs

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
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  sorry if this has been discussed before but on quora someone asked if rutherford had said that dinosaurs had been taken to venus .

  i assume that the questioner had heard it somewhere and wanted to check it out.

  i've never come across this before is it true ?

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  Vanderhoven7: Great find! I had never heard this nonsense before. Wow! Just wow!

  I wonder if anyone ever asked exactly how the dinos got to Venus. Or maybe the Judge just meant that the big J-Dawg created dinos there just like he did when the earth was young. Yeah, yeah, that's it!

  Sheesh! Just when I thought I'd heard everything...
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  2022-April-Elder Manual and Addendum--12 Files!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  several files in the folder including:.

  2022-april-elders manual.. 2022 april addendum.

  working together safely12 files total.

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  Hey, Atlantis! Hope all is well with you and yours. Especially hope that sweet Petra is well and happy! Take care, my friend.

  And thank you again for all the hard work and the great service you provide our community. Without you and your helpers, many of these documents would remain hidden forever and never exposed to the light of day. You're doing a yeoman's work!
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  Hi again

  by Lee Marsh in

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  it is nice to see some familiar faces here.

  for those who don't know who i am my last id was lady lee.

  thought i would drop by and say hello; see how people are doing.

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  Hello, Lady Lee! I have always enjoyed your posts. I'm glad you're back, and wish only the best for you. You are on our minds and in our hearts.
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  "That's not the Jehovah I know..."

  by under the radar in

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  sometime in late 2014 or early 2015, a video of tony morris giving a talk about giving one's all was released by the borg.

  he was belittling those who had one excuse or another for doing less than (he thought) they should.

  he mocked those who relied on the thought that "jehovah knows my circumstances and he doesn't think any less of me" or some such.

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  Thanks, everyone! The videos I found online don't say exactly what I remember hearing (That's not the Jehovah I know!), but they do say something very similar. A paraphrase, if you will. It is possible that he gave this talk more than once and the exact wording was not the same every time.

  If I find the exact video I'm thinking of, I'll post it here.

  Thanks again to everyone's help and comments!
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  "That's not the Jehovah I know..."

  by under the radar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sometime in late 2014 or early 2015, a video of tony morris giving a talk about giving one's all was released by the borg.

  he was belittling those who had one excuse or another for doing less than (he thought) they should.

  he mocked those who relied on the thought that "jehovah knows my circumstances and he doesn't think any less of me" or some such.

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  Sometime in late 2014 or early 2015, a video of Tony Morris giving a talk about giving one's all was released by the Borg. He was belittling those who had one excuse or another for doing less than (he thought) they should. He mocked those who relied on the thought that "Jehovah knows my circumstances and he doesn't think any less of me" or some such. He then sneered, "That's not the Jehovah I know."

  Does anyone know the exact date of that video, or maybe have a link to it or at least that particular excerpt? I recently cited that statement to a die-hard JW and was immediately challenged to prove it. You know how they claim anything negative is an "apostate lie." I'd like to be able to show them the actual clip so they can see for themselves exactly what he said.

  Thanks in advance to anyone who can point me in the right direction.
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  Do you remember GRACE GOUGH?

  by LullingtonRd in

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  hello, i am grace gough's granddaughter:.

  i have started a blog that begins at the beginning and this is with grace.

  follow along as i dive into her life - and please do reach out if you have any stories to share with me that i can add to my blog.. you can find the blog here:.

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  What an excellent blog! I'm so happy for y'all that you have all these pictures and documents and especially the recording of Grace herself telling a bit of her own story. It must have been quite a lot of work putting all this together. My hat's off to you!
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  Roman General Titus carried away treasures of the Holy Jerusalem Temple and the Vatican has stored them for centuries

  by Terry in

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  an article in the jerusalem post is quite interesting.https://www.jpost.com/jerusalem-report/article-696068.

  according to vatican expert dr. michael a. calvo, those vessels and others found their way to the vatican via another route, after making their way to byzantium: “these include temple candelabra given to pope innocent iii by baldwin i after the sacking of constantinople and the massacre of the christian orthodox population,” calvo claims.

  “temple shofars and utensils; garments of the high priest; the tzitz – a gold plaque with the words kodesh l’hashem (“holy to the lord”); cultural objects, and many other objets d’art, books and manuscripts that the vatican and other churches have appropriated and placed in their own storerooms, libraries, and museums.”.

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  Very interesting article, Terry. Thanks for posting it. I agree with those who believe the Vatican should make all its treasures available to serious historians and researchers. I realize that some are too fragile to be "restored" or put on display, but there should be very few that could not be photographed in ultra-high resolution and shared with the public in that way. Most could probably be scanned with special equipment and replicated by digital printers. The replicas could then be displayed so the hoi poloi such as myself could enjoy seeing the "next best thing" in real life, perhaps in a traveling exhibit.

  I'm not nearly as concerned about ownership as I am making the items available for study and for sharing these items with the public.